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Arax, Inquisiteur Grand Inquisiteur.
Messages : 9994 Date d'inscription : 29/07/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : En voyage dans les désolation nordiques
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 30 Sep 2010 - 6:07 | |
| - Citation :
- General Remarks/Rules
3 kind of armies with this book: Kabalyte, Wych Cult and Haemunculus army. But units are strong enough to make most combinations competitive as well. No point costs yet, as the Codex only had the main entry pages. But preview copies of the Codex should be instore in 2-3 weeks.
Universial rules Night vision rule army wide (= acute senses?) Strength through pain (mostly for Wych Cult units): After destroying non-vehicle unit, DE unit gets one pain token (1+ tokens means unit gets FNP, 2+ tokens means army gets Furious Charge, 3+ tokens means army gets fearless). Maximum is 3. Seems to buff all units with this rule simultaniously. Combat drugs: One roll for for every unit with combat drugs before the game (all get the same). Shadow Field in., 12“ assault not. 3-5 new units ,no old ones dropped. New units seem to be: New Archon bodyguard, new man-sized Haemunculi construct, new beast for beastmaster, Venom transport and something else. Splinter weaponry makes a wound in a 4+ (normal poison weapon). Dark Matter spam is gone with a more realistic allocation of heavy/special weapons mainly based on squad size. Similarly for reavers. Web portals are still in.
Warriors (also in an elite version, upgrade names: Kabalite warrior, Synabite, Kabalite Trueborn, Dracon) Stats as before. Splinter Rifle rapid fire, no plasma grenades or Splinter pistols. Dracons have lost -1WS, -1BS, and -1I but gained +1A. Sybarite are same as before with +1LD. Trueborn are same as Sybarites. Kabarite warriors are just that, warriors. Unit Type: Infantry WARGEAR: Splinter Rifle, Kabalite Armour Special Rules: Fleet, Night Vision and Power From Pain. Fluff text says Trueborn escort their Archons to battle, so these guys can probably be HQ Retinues. Dracons are Trueborn veterans.
Wyches (also in an elite version, upgrade names: Hekatrix, Hekatrix Bloodbride, Syren) Wych are same as before, Hekatrix and Bloodbrides are same as Wych Succubus with +1LD, Syrens are same as Hekatrix with +1A. Unit Type: Infantry Special Rules: Fleet, Night Vision, Power from Pain. WARGEAR: Close combat weapon, combat drugs, plasma grenades, splinter pistol, wychsuit. 6+ armour save, 4+ inv against cc attacks. Upgrades with special close combat weapons. Their weapon options are: Shardnet and Impaler: -1A to enemy in combat and base contact (to a minimum of 1), Hydra Gauntlets: +d6 attacks for 2 CCWS rather than +1A (Yes - really!) or Chain-of-blades weapon gives +2A, as well as re-rolls to hit and to wound.
Incubi(Upgrade: Klavex) T3, S3, 2 attacks but lose Tormentor Helm, with a 3+ save, can be upgraded with an Exarch (one option „preferred enemy“). Have Klaives (2 handed powerweapon +1 strength). The klaive gives the unit to roll again (only one time) the 6 to wound. Their squad leader (WS5, 3 Attacks) has a weapon that either gives him +2 S or +2 attacks (2 single handed weapons), and gives each member of the squad another attack on a roll of 6 to hit (no limit) Have hand flamers like BA. Can chose an IC as preferred enemy. Klaivex has some more rules, one similar to Old One eyes but not as good as blood angels blood talons. WARGEAR: Incubus warsuit Klaive: 2H weapon that gives +1S Demiklaives: Power Weapons, +2A or +2S chose each round before making attacks Bloodstone: Template, S3 AP3 Assault 1 Special Rules: Fleet, Night Vision and Power from Pain. Special Rules: Klavex only Onslaught: If a Klavex is in the unit, wound roll of 6 by Klavex or Incubus allows for bonus attacks, these cannot produce more attacks. Murderious Assault: Klavex points at an IC and gains Preferred Enemy against that IC, can be done every assault phase
Reaver Jetbike (Upgrade. Arena Champion) Can turbo boost 36", S3, T4, 5+ save, -1 to save and -1 to strength compared to previous edition. Jetbike gives +1 to save and +1 to Toughness (included in the profile). They can perform a "fly-by" attack on units they fly past WITHOUT getting into CC. There were several upgrades for reaver jetbikes that inflict different numbers of S3/4/6 hits on units when doing their 'fly by' attack. Can take Melter Blaster (S8 with Melter AND lance special rule) Have strength through pain rule. Blade under jetbike causes pinning test when wounding. WARGEAR: Wychsuit, splinter pistol, close combat weapon, combat drugs. Reaver Jetbike: +1T and 5+save, built in Splinter Rifle and 36" Turbo Boost Bladevanes: Turbo Boost over any number of units, select one unengaged, nonvechile unit you have passed over. Each bike does D3 S4 AP- hits. Cover Saves allowed. Cluster caltrops: Same as above but does D6 S6 AP- hits Grav-Talon: Same as Bladevanes, D3 S4 AP-, if target suffers 1 or more unsaved wounds it must immediately take a pinning test. Special Rules: Night Vision, Power from Pain, Skilled Riders La flemme de commenté mais ça m'a l'air très fun, je sais ce que je vais faire quand mes tau seront finis, suffira que je réfléchisse intensément à quelles conversions faire pour faire des cérastes de bons bios guerriers et que je fasse un post fluff sur le développement technologique lincian depuis les derniers siècles. | |
| | | Arghit Roi de Bretagne
Messages : 9098 Date d'inscription : 27/08/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : Le Sud...
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 30 Sep 2010 - 19:49 | |
| Sympa tout ça ouai. Mais il sort quand au juste? Le mois prochain? | |
| | | Harkan Heros de l'Empereur
Messages : 2769 Date d'inscription : 17/06/2009 Age : 29
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 30 Sep 2010 - 19:49 | |
| - Asdrubael Vect a écrit:
- Ca sortirait le 5 octobre.
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| | | Arghit Roi de Bretagne
Messages : 9098 Date d'inscription : 27/08/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : Le Sud...
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 30 Sep 2010 - 19:54 | |
| Ouai non mais en octobre y a déjà les sorties Haut elfes et le pavé d'Arax parle d'une preview dispo aux GW dans 2 semaines, donc par voie de fait, le 5 octobre ne semble pas être une bonne date... | |
| | | Harkan Heros de l'Empereur
Messages : 2769 Date d'inscription : 17/06/2009 Age : 29
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 30 Sep 2010 - 20:09 | |
| Fichtre... Boarf de toutes façons j'ai pas lu les pavés et y a pas de GW dans ma ville alors... | |
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| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 30 Sep 2010 - 20:13 | |
| J'ai vue une video de games montrant les unités (que l'on a deja vu) qui parlait de novembre. Je me suis donc gouré ce n'est pas le 5 octobre je crains. |
| | | Arghit Roi de Bretagne
Messages : 9098 Date d'inscription : 27/08/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : Le Sud...
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 30 Sep 2010 - 21:29 | |
| Pas mal l'artwork. | |
| | | Arax, Inquisiteur Grand Inquisiteur.
Messages : 9994 Date d'inscription : 29/07/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : En voyage dans les désolation nordiques
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Ven 1 Oct 2010 - 5:33 | |
| Sortent e novembre, on l'a déjà dit une dizaine de fois, probablement deux sorties au cours du mois. | |
| | | Axel44500
Messages : 145 Date d'inscription : 04/09/2010 Age : 28 Localisation : Dans ton :hap:
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Ven 1 Oct 2010 - 15:36 | |
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| | | Arax, Inquisiteur Grand Inquisiteur.
Messages : 9994 Date d'inscription : 29/07/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : En voyage dans les désolation nordiques
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mar 5 Oct 2010 - 19:48 | |
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| | | Arghit Roi de Bretagne
Messages : 9098 Date d'inscription : 27/08/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : Le Sud...
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mar 5 Oct 2010 - 19:52 | |
| alors...
L'hellion et moche, le tourmenteur est... space et le truc en bas est très classe. | |
| | | Jarlaxle Bregan d'Aerthe.
Messages : 9304 Date d'inscription : 25/11/2009 Age : 30
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mar 5 Oct 2010 - 19:55 | |
| J'ai le même avis, sauf que je dirais même que le truc en bas déchire complètement | |
| | | Arghit Roi de Bretagne
Messages : 9098 Date d'inscription : 27/08/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : Le Sud...
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mar 5 Oct 2010 - 20:15 | |
| Maintenant que j'y pense ce truc est peut etre une madragore... ça cole assez bien à des gars ave laregle peau d'ombre ou un truc du genre. Si c'est le cas, ils passent de ça: - Spoiler:
à ce qu'Arax à montré. Ils sont gagnant, clairement. | |
| | | Jarlaxle Bregan d'Aerthe.
Messages : 9304 Date d'inscription : 25/11/2009 Age : 30
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mar 5 Oct 2010 - 20:28 | |
| en même temps vu ce qu'Arax a montré, fallait vraiment une belle figurine pour pas être gagnant | |
| | | Raven Seigneur Amiral
Messages : 4585 Date d'inscription : 12/11/2009 Age : 30 Localisation : Stepped on your shoulder, watching your sins
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mar 5 Oct 2010 - 21:09 | |
| Vais peut-être m'acheter des Mandragors rien que parceque c'est classe. | |
| | | Arax, Inquisiteur Grand Inquisiteur.
Messages : 9994 Date d'inscription : 29/07/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : En voyage dans les désolation nordiques
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mer 6 Oct 2010 - 16:49 | |
| De petites infos sur notre amie Lelith Hesperax: - Citation :
WS:9 A:4
Cost: Hive Tyrant Rule A Cut Above The Rest: For every point of difference in WS, Lelith gains+1 attack. All her attacks count as power weapons Je pense que Fiora va pouvoir débarquer sur les tables de jeu sous relativement peu Nouvelle image de hélion au passage. | |
| | | Jarlaxle Bregan d'Aerthe.
Messages : 9304 Date d'inscription : 25/11/2009 Age : 30
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mer 6 Oct 2010 - 17:01 | |
| Beaucoup mieux | |
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| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mer 6 Oct 2010 - 18:28 | |
| Gw a été assez généreux sur les prix sur ce coup je trouve. |
| | | Arghit Roi de Bretagne
Messages : 9098 Date d'inscription : 27/08/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : Le Sud...
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mer 6 Oct 2010 - 18:33 | |
| Beaucoup mieux le hellion ouai, il est vachement plus dynamique que la première, meme si le surf reste un poil trop massif à mon gout.
Sinon, +1 Vect... | |
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| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Mer 6 Oct 2010 - 19:54 | |
| Les unités sont vraiment magnifiques surtout les sybarites.?Ils ont bien rendu l'aspect slaaneshi. Le codex fait 96 pages soit le double du codex actuel (qui est le codex le plus fin de 40k). Et je trouve commorragh sinistre a souhait avec son architecture eldar déchu et son ciel gris sombre. |
| | | Arghit Roi de Bretagne
Messages : 9098 Date d'inscription : 27/08/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : Le Sud...
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 7 Oct 2010 - 18:57 | |
| Les QG et les soutiens. Y a même un perso qui s'appelle Malice, parfait pour moi qui voulait me faire des drows de l'espace. - Citation :
- HEADQUARTERS
Asdrubal Vect Even more expensive but hard hitting , costing about as much as Mephiston (Dais not compulsory). Dais is AV 13 13 13 with three Dark Lances. He seizes the initiative on a 4+.
Lady Malys His Ex-Wife. Immune to psychic powers and passes this ability onto any unit she joins.
Lelith Hesperax 4++ save, 3++ in combat. S3. Her hair counts as a shardnet + impaler. Her knives are power weapons. She doesn't use combat drugs, as she is skilled enough With Weapon Skill 9 and four attacks which ignore armour saves, plus an extra one for each point her weapon skill is higher than her foe's, Lelith can murder entire squads. Soit 10 contre des SM
Drazhar Eternal Warrior and rules/stats similar to Phoenix Lords.
Urien Rakarth Master Haemunculus. Gives out d3 free pain tokens at the start of the game, which must go to wrack or grotesque units, also regains a wound at the start of each of his turns as his flesh re-knits itself. He can make the small constructs troops, and he can give grotesques S6 instead of their usual S5 for 5 points each.
Kheradruakh, the Decapitator mandrake champion, still with 4 arms. Always starts in reserve, player can place him anywhere without a roll but at least 1" or 2" away from enemy units.
Duke Sliscus the Serpent a corsair captain- nasty counterpart to Yriel who isn't that great a fighter but gives bonuses to the rest of your army. Concept wise he is David Bowie in space, a really glam rocker dude. Can confer 3+ Poisoned onto one unit's shooting attacks. Also, he is the Dark Eldar character who tore out Lukas The Trickster's heart.
Baron Sathonyx has a skyboard
Archon WS7, BS7, +1 BS, +1WS, +1A, +1LD compared to previous edition, can take Blaster (18“ range). If he kills and enemy MC/SC in close combat, he doubles his Strength to 6. If he kills another one, he doubles his Strength to 10. Can have bodyguard retinue called 'Court of the Archon' which is a retinue like an inquisitors. The Court Of The Archon is the Archon's new bodyguard option. It is somewhat inspired by Greek mythology. Options include a retinue member which grants 2+ Poisoned to the entire retinue. This option is unbelievably cheap for what it does. Other options include Ur-Ghuls (which had FNP) and Medusae (which have an 'eye laser' ranged attack). He can take different numbers of 4 different types of guards. ie. he can take some of one type and a few of another etc. (I would recommend keeping it down to 10 members so they can ride in the archon's pimpin' raider). One is a big bug - 3 wound tank monster, one is a 4 armed shooty guard, one is a general cc one, and another is a retinue member that grants the entire retinue poison 2+ CC attacks. To make things a bit difficult, ruleswise it is not a retinue, as the Archon can be singled out in a cc attack.
Wych Lord (Succubus)
Haemunculus FNP
Haemunculus Ancient (quite different from Haemunculus)
HEAVY SUPPORT Ravager Fast, skimmer, open-topped, AV 11 11 10, can fire all three dark lances at cruising speed
Talos In a standard and lighter version. Both similar size, no model in the near future. Lighter version is called Cronos or Parasite (?). When the Cronos kills a model with one of its weapons, it generates a pain token up to one per weapon per turn. You may chose to with nearby unit it goes.
Cronos (via warseer) Weaker but cheaper Talos. When it kills a model with one of it weapons you may choose a unit to add a Pain Point to. You can only get 1 point per weapon per Turn (3 max per turn) Has 2 ranged weapons
Razorwing Fighter Seem to be Skimmer, not flyers as previously said.They have aerial assault rules that mean they can move and fire all their weapons, they can also take a range of missiles. One of them: Implosion missiles, small blast, all models touched by it take a characteristics test on their wounds and if they fail it they instantly die. They can purchase up to four missiles of any of the following types and may be a mix of them. There are neurotoxin ones, imploding ones, soul stealing ones or something, and good old fashioned explosives.
Voidraven Bomber Seem to be Skimmer, not flyers as previously said. It is armour 11 with duel strength 9 Ap 2 dark lances, can move 36 inches, fire all weapons when moving 12, can drop a strength 8 bomb along its flight path. Costs as much as Rhino plus Ravager. They have aerial assault rules that mean they can move and fire all their weapons, they can also take a range of missiles. One of them: Implosion missiles, small blast, all models touched by it take a characteristics test on their wounds and if they fail it they instantly die. They can purchase up to four missiles of any of the following types and may be a mix of them. There are neurotoxin ones, imploding ones, soul stealing ones or something, and good old fashioned explosives. | |
| | | Arax, Inquisiteur Grand Inquisiteur.
Messages : 9994 Date d'inscription : 29/07/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : En voyage dans les désolation nordiques
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 7 Oct 2010 - 19:05 | |
| Oui, Lelith fait peur >< Au moins Fiora plateau sera fluff | |
| | | Arghit Roi de Bretagne
Messages : 9098 Date d'inscription : 27/08/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : Le Sud...
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 7 Oct 2010 - 19:27 | |
| Elle est pas sensée pouvoir se faire un buveur de sang ta pouf? | |
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| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 7 Oct 2010 - 19:32 | |
| Pas mal du tout,plus de vehicules en plus. Sinon les qg ca fait très nobles dépravés,je trouve. |
| | | Arax, Inquisiteur Grand Inquisiteur.
Messages : 9994 Date d'inscription : 29/07/2009 Age : 31 Localisation : En voyage dans les désolation nordiques
| Sujet: Re: Fils de Comoragh Jeu 7 Oct 2010 - 19:42 | |
| Le buveur de sang c'est Minos qui s'en tape un, Fiora reste restreinte au corps d'un mortel | |
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